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Third Time Thru is a band made up of quite good musicians of "a certain age", who all long ago opted to join the establishment and get day jobs, and who now are expressing their mid-life crises (and in some cases embarrasing their teenage children) by reliving their rock-and-roll fantasies. The band members are all from the Raleigh and Cary area. The playlist of the band has a lot of classic rock and roll, and Motown, but is constantly evolving to include other styles as well (see the "repetoire" tab). We can pull it off live, and we tend to work reasonably cheap in this age of DJ's and canned muzak. This year we finally tried out the fog machine. To our delight, it worked and no one got hurt.

Fan demonstrates appreciative face plant. For full video click the "Listen" tab then click the "Head over Heels" tab.

Glenn says "Don't try this at home."

Tripping
TTT has a long history with drummers named Dave. See if you can spot Dave in these photos that we've taken throughout the years.

Where's Dave?

You have to admit, the rest of us have aged well.

Rock Dave was our long time drummer until he sailed off, twice
Jazz Dave followed but he sailed off in an RV
Introducing Delaware Dave, the latest and greatest drummer named Dave to play with TTT.

email Glenn at toxrtp@aol.com

Third Time Thru plays songs from the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's and the new millennium. Here are some of the songs we do, tried to do, or thought about doing. Follow the hypertext links for the lyrics and chords.

Listen to the music.

Here's the stuff we've learned in 2015.

  • Till the Love Runs Out (by One Republic)
  • Lonely Boy (by Black Keys)
  • Tired of my Tears (Susan Tedeschi)
  • You Can Go Your Own Way
These are the songs we learned in 2014
  • Spirits in the Material World
  • Walking On the Moon
  • De Do Do Do, De Dah Dah Dah
  • Message In a Bottle
  • Boogie Oogie Oogie
These are the songs we learned in 2012
  • Green Eyed Lady
  • Footloose
  • Dynamite
These are the songs we learned in 2011
  • Freebird
  • Forget You
  • Long Train Running
  • Carry On My Wayward Son
  • Suite: Judy Blue Eyes

Songs we learned in 2010.

  • Need You Now
  • Beat It
  • Love the One You're With

Songs we learned in 2009.

  • I Love Rock 'n Roll
  • I Wanna Rock 'n Roll All Night
  • Ride Like The Wind
  • Ready To Run
  • I Want You To Want Me
  • Lovin Touching Squeezing

Songs we learned in 2008.

  • Africa
  • 867-5309/Jenny
  • Black Velvet
  • Chain of Fools

Songs we learned in 2007 and perfected in 2008.

  • Something
  • Carolina In My Mind
  • We Are Family
  • Love Shack
  • Locomotion
  • I Second that Emotion
  • Get Back (the Love Album remix. We already do the original version)
  • Some Kind of Wonderful
Song we learned in 2006
  • When Will I Be Loved
  • Heat Wave
  • China Grove
  • Soul Man
  • Red Rubber Ball
  • The Weight
  • Play That Funky Music (White Boy)
  • Superstitious
  • Than Ku Fa Let NMe B Mice Elf
Here are the songs we learned in 2005
  • Get Ready
  • The Shoop Shoop Song
  • Just One Look
  • Ain't Too Proud to Beg
  • Hey Baby
Here are the new songs we learned in 2004. Most were suggested by the new guys: Daniel and Alan. We wanna make them feel like they belong. Apparently this tactic wasn't enough to convince Daniel to stick around.
  • Mama Told Me Not to Come
  • Magic Carpet Ride
  • Born to be Wild
  • Pinball Wizard
  • Couldn't Get It Right
  • How Far is Heaven
  • Birthday
These are the songs we learned in 2003
  • Where Are You Going
  • Only You Know and I Know
  • When You Say Nothing at All
  • Sweet Emotion
  • Amazed
  • Tracks of My Tears
These are the songs we learned in 2002
  • Vehicle
  • Heard It Through the Grapevine
  • Sweet Home Alabama
  • Mony Mony
  • Tracks of My Tears
  • Dixie Chicken
  • Mustang Sally
  • Happy Together
  • Hold the Line
  • My Boyfriend's Back
These are the songs we learned in 2001... somewhat inspired by the release of the Beatles number 1 hits
  • Get Back
  • Brown Eyed Girl
  • Superman
  • Takin' Care of Business
  • Mean Mister Mustard
  • Polythene Pam
  • She Came In Through the Bathroom Window
  • Come Together
  • The Night Before
  • You're Gonna Lose That Girl
  • I Can See Clearly Now
  • Don't Stand So Close To Me
  • Shotgun
  • Do You Love Me
These are the songs we learned in 2000
  • Feelin All Right
  • Good bye Norma Jean
  • And I Love Her
  • Harvest Moon
  • Teach Your Children
  • If You're Not in it for Love
  • Statesboro Blues
  • Summer of '69
  • Larger Than Life
  • I Shot the Sheriff
These are the songs we learned in 1999
  • Can't Get Enough of Your Love
  • Smooth (Santana)
  • I Want it That Way(BackStreet Boys)
  • My Girl
  • Day Tripper
  • Devil With a Blue Dress
  • Mellow Yellow
  • Marguaritaville
  • Wind Beneath My Wings
  • From a Distance
  • You've Got a Friend
  • Sex and Candy
These are the songs we learned in 1998
Here's stuff we've been doing for a while.


  • Songs We Do When Keith is Around (and is feeling confident)
  • To Find a Friend
  • Breakfast at Tiffany's (Deep Blue Something)
  • Crocodile Rock (Elton John)
  • Your Song (Its a little bit funny...Elton John)
  • Holding On (Steve Winwood)
  • I Only Wanna Be With You (Hootie)
  • That's Just the Way It Is (Hornsby)
  • Jack and Dianne
  • Time (Hootie)
  • Hold My Hand
  • Wheel in the Sky
  • Don't Stop Believing (Journey)
  • Drowning (Hootie) . we've done this once. It'll sound good if we do it two more times.


  • Songs we like to do, have done more than three times, but still don't sound good on a regular basis
  • Get Over It
  • In The City This one sounds good with the current band members
  • Hotel California
  • All She Wants To Do Is Dance
  • Don't You Know What the Night Can Do


  • Songs we've done on occasion, or with a subset of the group, or with previous incarnations of the band
  • Knights In White Satin
  • The Question
  • House of the Rising Sun
  • Daniel
  • Dependin' On You


  • Songs We Should Be Able to Do but Can't, or Haven't Tried
  • Piece of My Heart
  • All I Wanna Do Is Have Some Fun
  • Redneck Friend
  • Gimme One Reason Why
  • Black Friday
  • Anything by Loggins and Messina
  • Anything by Poco


  • Songs We've Done on a Whim, But Never Worked On
  • All You Need Is Love
  • Yellow Submarine
  • Blue Bayou
  • 8 Miles High
  • Hey Jude
  • Let It Be
  • Louie Louie


  • Songs Marc or Cheryl asked us to do, but we refused
  • Season of the Witch
  • Crossfire
  • Wild Thing (This one almost started a band war. We may never do this again)

More Than You Want to Know About Third Time Thru

This page last modified December 2015
Third Time Thru is a working Rock 'n Roll band made up of a bunch of folks most of whom haven't given up their day jobs. Currently no one lives at the TTT commune, where we practice all day long. Merri is a part time resident. She moonlights picking up a few bucks here and there booking high paying gigs for another band (but not us). We've been having trouble keeping drummers recently. Fortunately it seems there's always a drummer named Dave ready, in the wings, waiting to take over. Dave Geter (aka Dr-Dave) is our newest drummer named Dave.

You probably know us from other bands we've been in. Some of us used to be with Merri and the 4 Skins. If you're lucky you'll see popup captions if you place the mouse over a picture. Most of us were in J.T. Black and Merri's Boyz. We were once almost known as Yehuda and the Gefilte Fish. Andy used to play with Strollin' While We Can and until recently played lead guitar in the jazz band Oak City Groove. Merri, like Elvis, Prince, Beyonce and Melonie, is one of the few performers who is immediately recognizable by her first name. In her solo career, playing for the old and young (old age homes and puppet shows) she was known as ... Merri. Now that she's joined TTT, she's known as the artist formerly known as ... Merri. Robert used to have a lead part with Marcia and Friends until Marcia and all her friends bailed out. Glenn and Alan banged keyboards and frets for Rhone and the Poulencs. For a short time, Robert and Andy made up the core of the foursome known as the Jody Page Trio. Don most recently played with Skeeter Hawk in Raleigh NC. Because of our troubled history with bass players, we checked Don out thoroughly. We requested a resume, checked out his personal life, his references, and made him pee in a cup. Check out the results.

2015 was a 're-forming' year. We got another new drummer named Dave. For clarity we call him Dr. Dave since D.R. are his initials. A couple of folks retired. Carole retired and un-retired. But now we're ready to start gigging again.

Our bass player saga has finally reached a happy conclusion. Don is still with us and he seems to be having a great time. He's been a positive influence musically as well as screwing with the audio gear and being our recording engineer.

We like to play together every few weeks. We'd prefer to play more often, but its too hard to get us all in the same place at the same time. When we first started playing together, practicing every few weeks was not enough to make progress. The result was we'd play a song 3 times and it would sound good. The next time we got together it was like starting all over again. We'd have to play the same song 3 times before it sounded good. That doesn't work if we're going to play a gig. You only get to do a song once during a gig. However, it did provide a name for the band: Third Time Thru. No matter how much or little we practice, the song sounds good the third time through. When we run short of band members, Will Williams might promise to come sit in (but he usually doesn't). Jazz-Dave Leder used to sit in with us on drums when Rock-Dave was sailing. Ultimately Rock-Dave sailed one time too often and Jazz-Dave replaced him. We won't play for you however, unless you're in the family or ...or you pay us a small fortune. We can be talked into doing freebie fund raisers if its a good cause.

Our lineup includes 3 or 4 lead singers (who all want to sing lead on every song), a keyboard player, a bass player, a drummer, 2 lead guitars, 3 or 4 guitars, 4 back up singers, harmonica, and 2 more guys that sing well enough that we're going to take up a collection and buy them some mics. In addition we've got a cowbell, a guerro, knockers (2 sets), tambourines, an egg and a banana! Between Glenn, Andy, Alan and Don we've got the most amazing collection of electronic equipment you've ever seen in a band that plays as infrequently as we do. In 2008 Alan and Glenn chipped in and bought a smoke machine. It remains to be seen when we'll actually use the thing.

Bass Players:
We've been thru so many bass players that they deserve their own section. Here's the lot in historical order

John Wolk, used to play bass with us. Unfortunately he had a lot of trouble remembering to come to practices. In 2001 a tribe of pigs flew over his house and stole all his equipment. So we had to let John go back to selling paint. (The pigs didn't steal the paint... it figures.). Ted Buckner replaced John on Bass. Ted's a real musician who actually had a gig with the now defunct Lula's Birthmark. Unfortunately Ted found he couldn't handle two bands. So he gave up music entirely.
Then Mark Kramer played with us until he had to move out of town in a hurry.
Then Paul Graf did a gig with us. He is currently woodshedding.
We were giving Lang (bless his heart) a chance, but he flew the coop at the first sign of competition.
We played with Bob Blair one time. He sounded pretty good and we had high hopes. As soon as Bob read this website and found out we wanted him because he works for Associated Sound Products and that we wanted to raid his store to create the TTT smoke and light show, he told us to take a hike.
After that we raided the young, multi-talented Daniel Marks from Maje. In 2005 Daniel decided he had enough of us and he hit the road.
For one gig Mike Sullivan joined the band until he decided he couldn't control our practice schedule. That's understandable as we can barely control it ourselves.
So, we went back to John Wolk because we all decided after 5 years, he had matured enough to be our bassman. It was like having the long lost brother we all were waiting for. For a while we were a happy family again.

But alas, John was not to be long with us the second time. It seems that tribe of pigs just kept flying over his house, wreaking all kinds of damage on his ability to come to practice or gigs. Will Williams joined us, on short notice, for our next two paying gigs. After that... we were back to our normal "looking for a bass player" mode.

In late 2007, we placed an ad in the neighborhood newsletter and found a bass player, Bill **** (name obscured to protect the guilty). Bill picked up the songs up quickly. He also had a great work ethic. The problem was that the guy liked to argue. That would be an asset in the Roman Forum perhaps, but not in a friendly rock band that enjoys lively, but upbeat discussions. So we left Bill to the Romans.

Of course that left us in potentially desparate straits. We have a couple of gigs booked, but no bass player. Luckily, during an instant messaging session with a co-worker, Andy's buddy image buddy image led to a music discussion with Don Jones. Andy has worked with Don for a few years in some high stress situations and the guy is dependable and level headed. Plus, it seems he can play bass. He used to play bass and keyboards in a jazz-fusion band. He also plays violin. The thing is, he hadn't played in 20 years. But he talked a good game and told us he was interested in starting to play again. To prove it, he went out and bought a new bass. That, and the fact that he learned the songs in about a second, convinced us to give Don a try. A bit more digging turned up that Don plays keyboards and violin on a regular basis. It was just bass that he hadn't played in 20 years. A year later Don is still working out. We're all hoping this is the final journal entry in the bass player saga.